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独家:卡尔·伊坎谈论他对推特的投资

独家:卡尔·伊坎谈论他对推特的投资

Shawn Tully 2022-10-11
这位传奇投资人认为,潜在的下行风险远没有许多华尔街人士预测的那么糟糕。

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10月初,我坐在曼哈顿市中心的《财富》杂志的办公桌前,接到了卡尔·伊坎(Carl Icahn)的回电。他当时正乘车前往总部,他公司的总部位于迈阿密北部一座俯瞰大西洋和比斯坎湾的办公大楼。我打电话给伊坎是想问问关于伊坎企业(Icahn Enterprises)的一篇报道。伊坎企业是一家由对冲基金和工业控股公司组成的公司,他控制着该公司近90%的股份。当埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)突然改变主意,终止了他对推特公司(Twitter)的收购协议,然后又同意以每股54.20美元全价收购推特公司,这让伊坎赚得盆满钵满。这一消息一出,推特股价从42美元反弹至52美元,而今年夏天的大部分时间推特股价都在35至40美元之间徘徊。

我问卡尔,你真的秘密持有5亿美元的股份,然后在几个月内就赚了2.5亿美元吗?

“我不谈论我们的立场,但我不否认这一点。”这位亿万富翁用他标志性的布朗克斯口音回答道。“我们以36美元或37美元的价格购买了大约5亿美元的股份。对我来说,这是一种本能反应。就像只见森林,不见树木。你需要将分析减少到一两件事。在这种情况下,这是显而易见的。”为什么这么说?“从风险回报的角度来看,购买推特公司股票看起来是一笔不错的交易。我们和一些律师谈过了。特拉华州衡平法院在执行合并合同方面非常强硬。我们认为马斯克的胜算很小。”简而言之,伊坎认为获得巨额收益的概率远远超过了遭受损失的概率。

事实上,伊坎认为,潜在的下行风险远没有许多华尔街人士预测的那么糟糕。许多分析师和权威人士预测,如果马斯克获胜,推特股价将跌至20-25美元的区间,并保持在这个水平。伊坎解释说:“我认为股价不会跌破35美元。即使下跌一段时间,我认为它也会反弹到那个水平。”伊坎仍然持有所有股份,并预计马斯克将以54.20美元的原价完成交易。

伊坎认为,马斯克一直都想收购推特公司。他说:“也许一些律师说服了他,他可以实现折扣收购。他就像一个拥有1000万美元的人,非常想要一辆跑车,所以最后他不会为几千块钱讨价还价。所以我认为马斯克只会说,'管它呢,我不会再抗争了'。”事实上,伊坎认为,马斯克会让这个破败的企业重新走向辉煌。“我不认识他,但他是个聪明人。这是一个出色的平台,虽然看起来不是这样,但他想要这个平台。我认为他会取得成功的。这对他来说是一笔好交易。”

在华尔街,这是少数人的立场。但卡尔·伊坎是一众聪明人中的佼佼者。他总结道,“如果世界上最富有的人想要什么,他通常都会得到。”(财富中文网)

译者:中慧言-王芳

10月初,我坐在曼哈顿市中心的《财富》杂志的办公桌前,接到了卡尔·伊坎(Carl Icahn)的回电。他当时正乘车前往总部,他公司的总部位于迈阿密北部一座俯瞰大西洋和比斯坎湾的办公大楼。我打电话给伊坎是想问问关于伊坎企业(Icahn Enterprises)的一篇报道。伊坎企业是一家由对冲基金和工业控股公司组成的公司,他控制着该公司近90%的股份。当埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)突然改变主意,终止了他对推特公司(Twitter)的收购协议,然后又同意以每股54.20美元全价收购推特公司,这让伊坎赚得盆满钵满。这一消息一出,推特股价从42美元反弹至52美元,而今年夏天的大部分时间推特股价都在35至40美元之间徘徊。

我问卡尔,你真的秘密持有5亿美元的股份,然后在几个月内就赚了2.5亿美元吗?

“我不谈论我们的立场,但我不否认这一点。”这位亿万富翁用他标志性的布朗克斯口音回答道。“我们以36美元或37美元的价格购买了大约5亿美元的股份。对我来说,这是一种本能反应。就像只见森林,不见树木。你需要将分析减少到一两件事。在这种情况下,这是显而易见的。”为什么这么说?“从风险回报的角度来看,购买推特公司股票看起来是一笔不错的交易。我们和一些律师谈过了。特拉华州衡平法院在执行合并合同方面非常强硬。我们认为马斯克的胜算很小。”简而言之,伊坎认为获得巨额收益的概率远远超过了遭受损失的概率。

事实上,伊坎认为,潜在的下行风险远没有许多华尔街人士预测的那么糟糕。许多分析师和权威人士预测,如果马斯克获胜,推特股价将跌至20-25美元的区间,并保持在这个水平。伊坎解释说:“我认为股价不会跌破35美元。即使下跌一段时间,我认为它也会反弹到那个水平。”伊坎仍然持有所有股份,并预计马斯克将以54.20美元的原价完成交易。

伊坎认为,马斯克一直都想收购推特公司。他说:“也许一些律师说服了他,他可以实现折扣收购。他就像一个拥有1000万美元的人,非常想要一辆跑车,所以最后他不会为几千块钱讨价还价。所以我认为马斯克只会说,'管它呢,我不会再抗争了'。”事实上,伊坎认为,马斯克会让这个破败的企业重新走向辉煌。“我不认识他,但他是个聪明人。这是一个出色的平台,虽然看起来不是这样,但他想要这个平台。我认为他会取得成功的。这对他来说是一笔好交易。”

在华尔街,这是少数人的立场。但卡尔·伊坎是一众聪明人中的佼佼者。他总结道,“如果世界上最富有的人想要什么,他通常都会得到。”(财富中文网)

译者:中慧言-王芳

Sitting at my Fortune desk in downtown Manhattan in early October, I got a call-back from Carl Icahn, who was traveling by car—Carl was being driven—to his headquarters in an office tower overlooking the Atlantic and Biscayne Bay north of Miami. I’d called Icahn to ask about the report that Icahn Enterprises, the combination hedge fund and industrial holding outfit where he controls almost 90% of the shares, scored a big win when Elon Musk did a sudden about-face by ending his campaign to scrap his agreement to buy Twitter, and agreeing to pay the full price of $54.20 a share. On that news, Twitter bounced from $42 to as high as $52, after spending most of the summer in the mid-to-high $30s.

So Carl, I asked, did you really take a secret stake of $500 million, and just garner a $250 million gain in a matter of months?

“I don’t talk about our positions, but I do not deny it,” replied the multi-billionaire in his trademark, Bronx-bred twang. “We bought about half a billion in shares at $36 or $37. For me, it was kind of an instinctive thing. It was like seeing the forest not just the trees. You want to reduce the analysis down to one or two things. In this case, it was obvious.” Why so? “On a risk-reward basis, buying the Twitter shares looked like a great deal. We talked to some lawyers. The Delaware Court of Chancery is very strong on enforcing merger contracts. We thought Musk had only a small chance of winning.” Put simply, Icahn saw that the probability of giant gains far outweighed the relatively remote chance of suffering a loss.

In fact, Icahn figured that the potential downside wasn’t nearly as bad as many on Wall Street predicted. A number of analysts and pundits forecast that if Musk won, Twitter would collapse into the mid-to-low $20s range, and stay here. “I didn’t think it would go much lower then the mid-$30s,” Icahn explains. “Even if it went lower for a while, I thought it would bounce back to that level.” Icahn is still holding all of his shares, and expects that Musk will close the deal a the original price of $54.20.

Icahn thinks that Musk wanted to buy Twitter all along. “Maybe some lawyers convinced him he could get a haircut,” he says. “He’s like a guy with $10 million who really wants a sports car, so in the end he doesn’t dicker over a few grand. So I think Musk just said, ‘To hell with it, I won’t fight this anymore.'” In fact, Icahn believes that Musk will transform the beaten-down property into a winner. “I don’t know him, but he’s a smart guy. It’s a great platform and though it didn’t look that way, he wanted it. I think he’ll be successful running it. It’s a great deal for him.”

On Wall Street, that’s the minority position. But Carl Icahn is the smartest of smart guys. And, he concluded, “If the richest man in the world wants something he’s generally going to get it.”

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