
上周三,安德鲁·霍在OpenAI工作八个月后离职。这位前研究员在社交平台X上宣布,将创办新公司,向前沿人工智能实验室出售高端强化学习数据集。
次日凌晨5点左右,霍仍未入睡,他在社交平台上给昔日同事们留下一番忠告:能套现就尽早落袋为安。他写道,前沿人工智能实验室的估值存在泡沫。
“如果你符合要约收购资格,我强烈建议抓住机会变现,”霍写道,“公司首次公开募股(IPO)后估值翻倍的可能性微乎其微;但估值腰斩,却完全有可能发生。”
等他一觉醒来,这些帖子已吸引数十万忧心忡忡的人关注。就在前一日,科技股遭遇抛售,纳斯达克100指数跌入修正区间。霍上周四接受《财富》杂志采访时表示:“事态发展着实出人意料。”
他透露,自己持有价值约70万美元的OpenAI股权,但按照法律规定,在IPO及限售期结束前不得出售。“所以我现在根本无法套现。”他说。
即便这番言论有损自身股权利益,霍仍公开坚持自己的观点。和业内大多数人一样,他相信推理需求将大幅增长、算力短缺即将到来、扩建数据中心势在必行。但令他“深感忧虑”的是:在平价模型的竞争压力下,前沿人工智能实验室正陷入一场愈演愈烈的烧钱竞赛,而营收增速却始终难以追上支出。
霍并不看好递归自我提升的愿景
霍描述的局面,正是分析师们略带夸张地称作“红皇后效应”的局面——你必须全力奔跑,才能守住现有位次。前沿实验室模型训练的成本持续攀升,而取得的技术优势却转瞬即逝;月之暗面(Moonshot)的Kimi这类平价竞品,依托模型蒸馏技术,仅需极低投入就能缩小技术差距。
他补充道,每一代新模型几乎必然会带来营收增长,但关键在于增幅有多大。前沿实验室背负着巨额债务,他表示:“只要计算上出现极微小的偏差,都可能决定一家公司的生死。”
霍补充道,实验室里多数投资者和同事对此并不担心,他们认为行业即将迎来重大突破:递归自我提升(RSI)。该理论设想,人工智能系统将发展到能自主开展研究,进而实现自我改进、自主运行实验、训练下一代模型。倘若每一代模型都能打造出性能略胜一筹的新版本,那么智能水平曲线或将迎来爆发式增长,算力成本亦将如此。
但霍并不认同这一观点。他认为,研究的瓶颈并非模型智能水平不足,而是缺乏“研究判断力”。这些模型不擅长提出实验方案,也无法分辨哪些研究结果有价值、哪些无关紧要。“你无法仅凭推理发现现象。”他说道。
霍补充道,模型在部分领域表现极为出色,在相近领域却表现不佳;这种模式看似随机,实则不然。凡是结果能客观验证的领域,模型能力提升最为迅速:数学证明要么成立、要么不成立;程序要么能编译数据,要么无法执行。数十亿美元都投入了这些领域,迄今为止成效显著。但他表示,所有难以客观验证的领域,相关技术停滞不前。
这也是他选择离职的原因。在霍看来,容易落地、结果可验证的技术红利已被充分挖掘,下一阶段的技术突破将来自更为复杂的任务,这正是他创业的方向:为模型目前仍无法处理、高度依赖判断的工作构建数据集。公司首批产品将聚焦长期科学推理与统计分析。
赢家:英伟达和美光
近日硅谷社交平台上流传着另一种观点,播客主持人德瓦克什·帕特尔(Dwarkesh Patel)是主要发声者。他认为递归自我提升将算力成本推高至当前的十倍,实验室营收也有望同步增长。霍的观点与之相悖,却与华尔街更为契合。上周三Meta股价大跌10%,谷歌上周股价下跌8%,市场担忧持续投入人工智能基建的科技企业无法收回成本。
如今霍更多从投资者的视角出发(他有一定金融背景),表示:“这场竞赛里真正赚得盆满钵满的,是英伟达(Nvidia)和美光(Micron),毕竟它们向这场竞赛中的所有参与者销售芯片。”
霍称,实验室要跳出“红皇后效应”困局,有两条出路,但都困难重重:一是自研芯片,打破英伟达的定价垄断;二是拓展至应用层,自主开发、对外销售更多产品,Meta收购Cursor就是典型案例。霍认为,现阶段实验室仅获得模型创造经济价值的一小部分,这一领域“资金投入严重不足”。
眼下,霍正专注于应对成立仅一天、尚未命名的公司引发的巨大关注,并尽量不去想自己在OpenAI处于锁定期的股权。
“看着手里这些限售股权,我总会不由自主地琢磨未来会怎样,压力很大,”他说,“这占了我净资产的很大一部分。”
他猜测,大多数前同事并不会为此过度焦虑。
“埋头工作就好,”霍说道,“别太纠结这些问题。或许,这反而是件好事。”(财富中文网)
译者:中慧言-王芳
上周三,安德鲁·霍在OpenAI工作八个月后离职。这位前研究员在社交平台X上宣布,将创办新公司,向前沿人工智能实验室出售高端强化学习数据集。
次日凌晨5点左右,霍仍未入睡,他在社交平台上给昔日同事们留下一番忠告:能套现就尽早落袋为安。他写道,前沿人工智能实验室的估值存在泡沫。
“如果你符合要约收购资格,我强烈建议抓住机会变现,”霍写道,“公司首次公开募股(IPO)后估值翻倍的可能性微乎其微;但估值腰斩,却完全有可能发生。”
等他一觉醒来,这些帖子已吸引数十万忧心忡忡的人关注。就在前一日,科技股遭遇抛售,纳斯达克100指数跌入修正区间。霍上周四接受《财富》杂志采访时表示:“事态发展着实出人意料。”
他透露,自己持有价值约70万美元的OpenAI股权,但按照法律规定,在IPO及限售期结束前不得出售。“所以我现在根本无法套现。”他说。
即便这番言论有损自身股权利益,霍仍公开坚持自己的观点。和业内大多数人一样,他相信推理需求将大幅增长、算力短缺即将到来、扩建数据中心势在必行。但令他“深感忧虑”的是:在平价模型的竞争压力下,前沿人工智能实验室正陷入一场愈演愈烈的烧钱竞赛,而营收增速却始终难以追上支出。
霍并不看好递归自我提升的愿景
霍描述的局面,正是分析师们略带夸张地称作“红皇后效应”的局面——你必须全力奔跑,才能守住现有位次。前沿实验室模型训练的成本持续攀升,而取得的技术优势却转瞬即逝;月之暗面(Moonshot)的Kimi这类平价竞品,依托模型蒸馏技术,仅需极低投入就能缩小技术差距。
他补充道,每一代新模型几乎必然会带来营收增长,但关键在于增幅有多大。前沿实验室背负着巨额债务,他表示:“只要计算上出现极微小的偏差,都可能决定一家公司的生死。”
霍补充道,实验室里多数投资者和同事对此并不担心,他们认为行业即将迎来重大突破:递归自我提升(RSI)。该理论设想,人工智能系统将发展到能自主开展研究,进而实现自我改进、自主运行实验、训练下一代模型。倘若每一代模型都能打造出性能略胜一筹的新版本,那么智能水平曲线或将迎来爆发式增长,算力成本亦将如此。
但霍并不认同这一观点。他认为,研究的瓶颈并非模型智能水平不足,而是缺乏“研究判断力”。这些模型不擅长提出实验方案,也无法分辨哪些研究结果有价值、哪些无关紧要。“你无法仅凭推理发现现象。”他说道。
霍补充道,模型在部分领域表现极为出色,在相近领域却表现不佳;这种模式看似随机,实则不然。凡是结果能客观验证的领域,模型能力提升最为迅速:数学证明要么成立、要么不成立;程序要么能编译数据,要么无法执行。数十亿美元都投入了这些领域,迄今为止成效显著。但他表示,所有难以客观验证的领域,相关技术停滞不前。
这也是他选择离职的原因。在霍看来,容易落地、结果可验证的技术红利已被充分挖掘,下一阶段的技术突破将来自更为复杂的任务,这正是他创业的方向:为模型目前仍无法处理、高度依赖判断的工作构建数据集。公司首批产品将聚焦长期科学推理与统计分析。
赢家:英伟达和美光
近日硅谷社交平台上流传着另一种观点,播客主持人德瓦克什·帕特尔(Dwarkesh Patel)是主要发声者。他认为递归自我提升将算力成本推高至当前的十倍,实验室营收也有望同步增长。霍的观点与之相悖,却与华尔街更为契合。上周三Meta股价大跌10%,谷歌上周股价下跌8%,市场担忧持续投入人工智能基建的科技企业无法收回成本。
如今霍更多从投资者的视角出发(他有一定金融背景),表示:“这场竞赛里真正赚得盆满钵满的,是英伟达(Nvidia)和美光(Micron),毕竟它们向这场竞赛中的所有参与者销售芯片。”
霍称,实验室要跳出“红皇后效应”困局,有两条出路,但都困难重重:一是自研芯片,打破英伟达的定价垄断;二是拓展至应用层,自主开发、对外销售更多产品,Meta收购Cursor就是典型案例。霍认为,现阶段实验室仅获得模型创造经济价值的一小部分,这一领域“资金投入严重不足”。
眼下,霍正专注于应对成立仅一天、尚未命名的公司引发的巨大关注,并尽量不去想自己在OpenAI处于锁定期的股权。
“看着手里这些限售股权,我总会不由自主地琢磨未来会怎样,压力很大,”他说,“这占了我净资产的很大一部分。”
他猜测,大多数前同事并不会为此过度焦虑。
“埋头工作就好,”霍说道,“别太纠结这些问题。或许,这反而是件好事。”(财富中文网)
译者:中慧言-王芳
Andrew Ho left OpenAI after eight months on Wednesday, as the former researcher announced on X that he was starting a company to sell high-end reinforcement learning datasets to frontier AI labs.
Around 5 a.m. the next morning, still awake, Ho posted some advice for the colleagues he’d left behind: take the money while you can. The frontier labs, he wrote, are overvalued.
“I would strongly recommend taking liquidity if you’re eligible for tender offers,” Ho wrote. “It seems somewhat implausible that the valuation is going to, like, 2x after the IPO, but it does certainly seem plausible that it could go down by 50%.”
By the time he woke up, the posts had drawn hundreds of thousands of anxious eyes, having arrived in the middle of a tech selloff that had pushed the Nasdaq 100 into correction the day before. “It was kind of remarkable,” Ho said in an interview with Fortune Thursday.
He said he has about $700K in shares that he’s not legally allowed to sell until after the IPO and lockup period. “So I’m just stuck,” he said.
So even if he’s talking against his own book, Ho is publicly standing on business. Like most in the industry, he believes that demand for inference will rise dramatically; that there will be a compute crunch soon; that the data center buildout is necessary. But what he’s “paranoid” about is that competition from cheap models is forcing frontier labs onto a faster and faster treadmill of spending, and that revenue will never quite catch up.
Ho doesn’t buy the RSI dream
What Ho describes is what analysts, with a little flourish, like to call a “Red Queen’s race,” where you have to run as fast as you can just to stay in place. Frontier labs are having to pay more and more for each cycle of training, and the advantage it buys is temporary; cheaper competitors like Moonshot’s Kimi can close the gaps for a fraction of the cost through distillation.
Revenue, he added, will almost certainly go up with each model; but the question is, how much? With all the debt frontier labs are taking on, he said, “If you miscalculate even by just a very fine amount, that can be the difference between life or death for a company.”
Most investors and peers at his lab feel okay about this, he added, because they think they’re on the cusp of a breakthrough: RSI, or recursive self-improvement. That’s the idea that an AI system can get good enough at AI research to improve itself, running its own experiments and training its own successors. If each version can build itself a slightly better version, the curve for intelligence could go parabolic, as well as the cost of compute.
But Ho doesn’t buy it. Research, he said, isn’t limited by models’ intelligence; rather, it’s limited by a lack of “research taste.” The models aren’t good at proposing experiments, or at recognizing which results are important and which aren’t. “You can’t reason your way to phenomena,” he said.
Models, Ho added, are extraordinarily good at some things and just bad at adjacent ones, and though the pattern seems random, it’s not. Capabilities have advanced fastest where results are equal to check; a mathematical proof is valid, or it isn’t. A program can compile data, or it can’t. That’s where the billions of dollars of spending have gone, and it’s worked out so far. But everything else that’s harder to verify is still stuck, he said.
And that’s why he left. The low-hanging, verifiable fruit has been picked through, so the next round of gains, as Ho sees it, will come from messier tasks, which is the exact business he’s starting: creating datasets for the judgement-heavy work models still can’t do. His first products will focus on long-horizon scientific reasoning and statistical analysis.
Winners: Nvidia and Micron
This view puts Ho at odds with the case circulating Silicon Valley social media this week, most prominently from podcaster Dwarkesh Patel, who argued that compute could get 10x more expensive—and thus the labs could make 10x more the revenue—because of RSI. But it puts him more squarely aligned with Wall Street, which sold off 10% of Meta on Wednesday and 8% of Google last week out of fears that the companies funding the AI buildout won’t get their money back.
Ho, now speaking more in investor-brain (he has a little background in finance), says the “people making out really happily here are Nvidia and Micron,” since they’re the ones selling the chips to everyone in the race.
Labs themselves have two ways out of the Red Queens’s race, Ho added. But both are hard: Labs could build their own chips and break Nvidia’s pricing power. Or they could move up into the application layer and start building and selling more products themselves, like Meta buying Cursor. Right now, Ho argues, the labs capture a fraction of the value their models create in the economy, and that gap is “very undercapitalized at the moment.”
For now, Ho is focusing on fielding the heavy interest in his day-old company, which doesn’t have a name yet, and trying not to think about his locked-up OpenAI equity.
“I see this vested equity, I’m thinking about it, I’m just sort of stressing about what’s going to happen to it,” he said. “It’s this huge proportion of my net worth.”
Most of his former colleagues, he suspects, don’t dwell on it.
“You’re going to work,” Ho said. “Don’t think too hard about these questions. Which is maybe for the best.”