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面试日程“撞车”被堵在路上,如今他成为维珍掌门人

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2026-09-01

现年53岁的贝利斯表示,当初布兰森吸引他的地方,至今仍是这位维珍集团创始人身上标志性的特质。

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乔什·贝利斯于2005年以律师身份加入维珍,此后一路晋升至首席执行官,并从理查德·布兰森不拘一格的经营之道中汲取了不少经验。图片来源:Courtesy of Virgin Group (via Robert Perry / The Sunday Times / News Licensing)

对求职者而言,光是参加亿万富翁、维珍(Virgin)品牌创始人理查德·布兰森的面试,就足以让人紧张。

然而,当时31岁的律师乔什·贝利斯来到布兰森位于伦敦的豪宅,本以为只是一场再寻常不过的面试,布兰森却突然想起自己在城市的另一端还有一场约好的会面,而且已经迟到。他没有取消面试,而是邀请贝利斯同车前往。

贝利斯近日在接受《财富》杂志采访时回忆道:“如果路况顺畅,那段路程大约只需要45分钟。”结果,这趟车程却变成了一场长达两个半小时的“奇遇”,而他也抓住了这个绝佳机会。

贝利斯说道:“我们被堵在路上,这反而正合我意。我有机会真正向理查德刨根问底,弄清楚他的动力究竟源自何处。”

最终,贝利斯于2005年获得了总法律顾问一职。那场在漫长堵车中完成的面试,成为他与布兰森结缘的起点,这段关系也在此后进一步影响了他的职业生涯。到2011年,贝利斯升任维珍集团首席执行官,掌管着一个庞大的业务版图,涵盖航空公司、电信巨头、连锁健身房,以及商业太空旅游等领域。今年,他又出任维珍航空(Virgin Atlantic)董事长一职。

距离那场面试已过去近20年,现年53岁的贝利斯表示,当初布兰森吸引他的地方,至今仍是这位维珍集团创始人身上标志性的特质。

贝利斯表示:“理查德身上有一种蓬勃的活力,他渴望去探索未知、尝试未曾涉足的领域。在我看来,这与我永不停歇的好奇心十分契合。”

从立志成为科学家,到转行做律师,再到瞄准企业高管层

贝利斯出生于新西兰最大城市奥克兰的一个普通家庭,父亲是吉他手,母亲是理发师。在成长过程中,成为首席执行官根本不在他的人生规划之中。

小学时,受《无敌浩克》(Incredible Hulk)变身超能力的启发,他曾立志要当一名科学家。但在上了几门科学课后,他发现,相比理工类学科(STEM),自己对人文学科更感兴趣。

贝利斯说道:“我热爱历史,修过古典学,对语言和哲学也情有独钟。”

他本科就读于奥克兰大学(University of Auckland),主修历史和西班牙文学,1996年本科毕业后转而修读法律。从法学院毕业后的第一份工作,是在新西兰上诉法院担任法官助理。这份工作让他得以近距离见证那些影响深远的重大裁决,也让他看到了人们如何在重大问题上激烈交锋,却又绝不会让分歧演变成个人恩怨。

贝利斯表示:“我有幸接触到最杰出的一批人。他们常常就关乎无数人切身利益的重大问题展开激烈争论,但不会因此伤了和气。”

这段经历对他影响深远。此后,他先进入巴塞罗那的一家律师事务所工作,并于1999年前往伦敦。但随着职业生涯的发展,贝利斯越来越不满足于仅仅为决策者提供咨询建议。

他表示:“我渴望亲自做决策。我希望承担责任,也希望以商业方式切实改善人们的生活。”他补充说,在维珍工作的机会以及31岁时与布兰森的那场面试,恰好给了他理想的平台——将法律背景与日益重要的领导职责结合起来。

Z世代实习生令贝利斯“惊叹”——他认为善用AI的人职业发展“速度更快”

在维珍工作二十多年后,贝利斯表示,那些助他一路晋升的品质,也是他在下一代职场人身上所看重的:好奇心、适应能力,以及挑战传统思维的意愿。

尤其是Z世代实习生,总是让他赞叹不已,部分原因在于他们敢于坚守自己的价值观。

贝利斯表示:“这些年轻人的道德素养令我由衷敬佩。他们能为团队带来一种不可动摇的力量,我认为这一点至关重要。”

在AI持续重塑职场的当下,这种信念显得尤为珍贵。贝利斯将AI视为“赋能工具,而非替代工具”,他相信,年轻人若能将AI与自身优良品质相结合,就能在职业生涯早期发展得更快。

贝利斯补充道:“那些初入职场的年轻人,确实能够更快度过职业生涯的早期阶段。”(财富中文网)

译者:刘进龙

审校:汪皓

对求职者而言,光是参加亿万富翁、维珍(Virgin)品牌创始人理查德·布兰森的面试,就足以让人紧张。

然而,当时31岁的律师乔什·贝利斯来到布兰森位于伦敦的豪宅,本以为只是一场再寻常不过的面试,布兰森却突然想起自己在城市的另一端还有一场约好的会面,而且已经迟到。他没有取消面试,而是邀请贝利斯同车前往。

贝利斯近日在接受《财富》杂志采访时回忆道:“如果路况顺畅,那段路程大约只需要45分钟。”结果,这趟车程却变成了一场长达两个半小时的“奇遇”,而他也抓住了这个绝佳机会。

贝利斯说道:“我们被堵在路上,这反而正合我意。我有机会真正向理查德刨根问底,弄清楚他的动力究竟源自何处。”

最终,贝利斯于2005年获得了总法律顾问一职。那场在漫长堵车中完成的面试,成为他与布兰森结缘的起点,这段关系也在此后进一步影响了他的职业生涯。到2011年,贝利斯升任维珍集团首席执行官,掌管着一个庞大的业务版图,涵盖航空公司、电信巨头、连锁健身房,以及商业太空旅游等领域。今年,他又出任维珍航空(Virgin Atlantic)董事长一职。

距离那场面试已过去近20年,现年53岁的贝利斯表示,当初布兰森吸引他的地方,至今仍是这位维珍集团创始人身上标志性的特质。

贝利斯表示:“理查德身上有一种蓬勃的活力,他渴望去探索未知、尝试未曾涉足的领域。在我看来,这与我永不停歇的好奇心十分契合。”

从立志成为科学家,到转行做律师,再到瞄准企业高管层

贝利斯出生于新西兰最大城市奥克兰的一个普通家庭,父亲是吉他手,母亲是理发师。在成长过程中,成为首席执行官根本不在他的人生规划之中。

小学时,受《无敌浩克》(Incredible Hulk)变身超能力的启发,他曾立志要当一名科学家。但在上了几门科学课后,他发现,相比理工类学科(STEM),自己对人文学科更感兴趣。

贝利斯说道:“我热爱历史,修过古典学,对语言和哲学也情有独钟。”

他本科就读于奥克兰大学(University of Auckland),主修历史和西班牙文学,1996年本科毕业后转而修读法律。从法学院毕业后的第一份工作,是在新西兰上诉法院担任法官助理。这份工作让他得以近距离见证那些影响深远的重大裁决,也让他看到了人们如何在重大问题上激烈交锋,却又绝不会让分歧演变成个人恩怨。

贝利斯表示:“我有幸接触到最杰出的一批人。他们常常就关乎无数人切身利益的重大问题展开激烈争论,但不会因此伤了和气。”

这段经历对他影响深远。此后,他先进入巴塞罗那的一家律师事务所工作,并于1999年前往伦敦。但随着职业生涯的发展,贝利斯越来越不满足于仅仅为决策者提供咨询建议。

他表示:“我渴望亲自做决策。我希望承担责任,也希望以商业方式切实改善人们的生活。”他补充说,在维珍工作的机会以及31岁时与布兰森的那场面试,恰好给了他理想的平台——将法律背景与日益重要的领导职责结合起来。

Z世代实习生令贝利斯“惊叹”——他认为善用AI的人职业发展“速度更快”

在维珍工作二十多年后,贝利斯表示,那些助他一路晋升的品质,也是他在下一代职场人身上所看重的:好奇心、适应能力,以及挑战传统思维的意愿。

尤其是Z世代实习生,总是让他赞叹不已,部分原因在于他们敢于坚守自己的价值观。

贝利斯表示:“这些年轻人的道德素养令我由衷敬佩。他们能为团队带来一种不可动摇的力量,我认为这一点至关重要。”

在AI持续重塑职场的当下,这种信念显得尤为珍贵。贝利斯将AI视为“赋能工具,而非替代工具”,他相信,年轻人若能将AI与自身优良品质相结合,就能在职业生涯早期发展得更快。

贝利斯补充道:“那些初入职场的年轻人,确实能够更快度过职业生涯的早期阶段。”(财富中文网)

译者:刘进龙

审校:汪皓

A job interview with Richard Branson, the billionaire founder of the Virgin brand, is likely to be nerve-racking enough on its own.

But when then-31-year-old lawyer Josh Bayliss arrived at Branson’s London mansion for what he expected to be a fairly standard interview, Branson realized he had another appointment across town—and was already running late. Rather than cancel the interview, Branson invited Bayliss to come along for the ride.

“It was probably on a good day, a 45-minute drive,” Bayliss recently recalled to Fortune. In reality, it turned into a two-and-a-half hour adventure that he took full advantage of.

“We got stuck in traffic, and that was great for me,” Bayliss said. “I got a chance to really interrogate Richard and find out a lot more about what made him tick.”

Bayliss ended up landing the job of general counsel in 2005—and that long traffic-filled interview marked the beginning of a relationship with Branson that would further shape his career. By 2011, Bayliss was promoted to CEO of Virgin Group, overseeing a sprawling portfolio that includes an airline, telecommunications giant, gym chain, and commercial space-tourism business. This year he also added chair of Virgin Atlantic to his resume.

Nearly two decades after that first interview, Bayliss, now 53, said what drew him to Branson in the first place remains a defining part of the Virgin Group founder.

“There is an energy to Richard and an appetite to learn about what he doesn’t already know, to try what he hasn’t already tried, which I think really does blend very well with my own ceaseless curiosity,” Bayliss said.

Bayliss went from aspiring scientist to lawyer before setting his sights on the C-suite

Bayliss was born in Auckland, the largest city in New Zealand, to a modest family, with his father playing guitar and a mother working as a hairdresser. Becoming a CEO was hardly something he had mapped out for himself growing up.

In primary school, he always wanted to become a scientist, inspired by the Incredible Hulk’s transformational superpowers. But after taking a few science courses, he realized his interests leaned more toward the humanities than STEM.

“I loved history. I did classics. I loved languages. I loved philosophy,” Bayliss said.

He went on to study history and Spanish literature as an undergraduate at the University of Auckland, graduating in 1996 before turning to law. His first job out of law school was as a judge’s clerk at the Court of Appeal of New Zealand, giving him a front-row seat to consequential decisions—and to people who could disagree fiercely without letting those disagreements become personal.

“I was exposed to some of the greatest minds I’ve ever been among, disagreeing profoundly over matters of huge importance for huge numbers of people, but never falling out over that disagreement,” Bayliss said.

That experience stayed with him as he moved to a law firm in Barcelona and then to London in 1999. But the further Bayliss progressed in his career, the less satisfied he became with advising the people making the big calls.

“I wanted to be making decisions. I wanted to take responsibility, and I wanted to be accountable for improving things for people in a commercial sense,” he said. He added that the opportunity to work at Virgin—and interview with Branson at age 31—gave him just that: the chance to combine his legal background with a growing role in leadership.

Gen Z interns ‘astonish’ Bayliss—and he says those who use AI can ‘move far more rapidly’ in their careers

More than two decades into his career at Virgin, Bayliss said the qualities that helped him advance are the same ones he looks for in the next generation of workers: curiosity, adaptability, and a willingness to challenge conventional thinking.

Gen Z interns, in particular, astonish him year after year, in part because of their willingness to stand by their values.

“I’m just so impressed with the caliber of the moral fiber of these young people,” Bayliss said. “I think they bring something to the table which is unbendable, and I think that’s so important.”

That conviction could prove especially valuable as AI continues to reshape the workplace. Bayliss views the technology as an “enablement tool rather than a replacement tool,” and believes young workers who pair it with strong human qualities can move faster early in their careers.

Bayliss added: “Those young people coming into the world of work are actually able to move far more rapidly through the early stages of their career.”

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