亚当•拉辛斯基：我想问你科技如何成为解决方法的一部分。但在此之前，我想先问问你，我们这个国家是否使人们认为，他们需要一个大学学位才能获得成功，但实际上他们没必要拥有大学学位？

    约翰•汉尼斯：你知道吗，我认为你不必拥有大学学位，但如果我是一位加入劳动力大军的年轻人，我希望在今后40、45甚至50年里继续工作，因为实际上我认为退休是20、30、40年后的事情。在这段时间里，你可能会换很多个工作，那么大学教育还有重要的价值吗？很有可能。在未来，经济可能将充满不确定性，不会像以前那样稳定，这时大学教育可能更有价值。可以提供大多数美国人所希望的生活质量的工作将会更少，如果没有获得大学教育，你将无法得到这类工作。

    译者：千牛絮

    ADAM LASHINSKY: But before I ask you about how technology could be part of it, have we as a country guilted people into thinking that they need a college degree to succeed where they don't necessarily need one?

    JOHN HENNESSY: You know, I think you don't necessarily need one, but if I were a young person going out to the workforce expecting to work for the next 40, 45, maybe 50 years of my life, because realistically I think that's what retirement ages will look like 20, 30, 40 years from now, is there great value in a college education when you're going to have multiple careers over that period of time? Probably. And in terms of -- in a time of great economic uncertainty, which is probably what's going to be in the future rather than the certainty we've had, then a college education is probably more valuable. There will be fewer -- you will not be able to get the kind of jobs that will provide the quality of life that most Americans hope for without a college education.