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Men's Wearhouse创始人被扫地出门背后的故事

Dan Primack 2013年12月19日

Dan Primack专注于报道交易和交易撮合者,从美国金融业到风险投资业均有涉及。此前,Dan是汤森路透(Thomson Reuters)的自由编辑,推出了peHUB.com和peHUB Wire邮件服务。作为一名新闻工作者,Dan还曾在美国马萨诸塞州罗克斯伯里经营一份社区报纸。目前他居住在波士顿附近。
40年前,乔治•齐默创办了The Men's Wearhouse公司,一手把它带到了如今的高度。但今年6月,他却被他自己创办的公司炒了鱿鱼。至于原因,双方各执一词。真相到底是什么?

    Jos. A. Bank有没有联系过你担任合并后公司的某个职位,如果他们当初收购成功的话?

    没有。这些年来,我从来没有跟Jos. A. Bank公司的高管建立过任何联系。我一直把他们视为竞争对手,所以我不愿意与他们进行过多的交谈,我怕我会说一些不该说的话。

    创始人被自己创建的公司扫地出门,也不是不常见。但你被解雇这件事,似乎刺痛了流行文化圈敏锐的神经。在你看来,为什么出现了这种现象?

    这或许跟美国人总是同情失败者有些关系吧。表面看来,这显然是一个有疑问的情形。我认为,作为一位在“碎布业”摸爬滚打了40年的企业家,我赚到了真金白银。不是在高科技行业、房地产或者金融领域,而是采用一种更加老派的方式。我想这或许是我拥有一些人气的原因吧。这么长时间以来,我也一直用正确的方式做大多数事情。人们赞赏这一点,就算他们从来没有在The Men's Wearhouse买过哪怕一件衣服。

    《周六夜现场》(Saturday Night Live)上个月把你嘲弄了一番,你感到惊讶吗?

    并不像你想象的那么惊讶。我不是真的那么谦卑。我认为那期节目一点也不好笑。但其他人做得更好。比如,吉米•法伦的写手们总是拿The Men's Wearhouse和我开涮,他们那种方式我还是很欣赏的。

    你想过创办或执掌另一家公司?

    几乎可以100%肯定的是,我不会出任一家上市公司的CEO。我刚满65岁,已经开始享受老年人医疗保险政策了,而且还有两个上中学的孩子。在生意场上,我已经证明了我需要证明的一切。唯一让我留恋的是零售店的员工。每年11月和12月,公司都会举办50场黑领带节日派对,我参加过15场。在一定程度上,正是这些聚会,把不同店铺和员工联系在了一起。这是我40年来第一次缺席这种聚会,我确实挺怀念的。

    你有没有可能担任某家公司的董事或监事?

    绝对有可能。我喜欢更多地扮演幕后角色。我拥有丰富的经验,一些我执掌公司时不一定意识到的经验。这就是我目前写书的原因之一,我想表达一些在这里没有空间施展的想法。(财富中文网)

    译者:叶寒  

    Did Jos. A. Bank reach out about a role with the merged company, were they to win?

    No. In all these years I never had a relationship with the senior execs at Jos. A. Bank. I always saw them as our competitor, so I was reluctant to talk too much for fear that I may say something that I shouldn't.

    It is not uncommon for a founder to be booted from his company, but your termination seemed to strike a sharp nerve in popular culture. Why do you think that was?

    It would probably have something to do with America's love of the underdog. Clearly this appears to be a problematic situation. I think that having been an entrepreneur for 40 years in the schmatta business -- having made my money not in technology or in real estate or in the financial sector, but in more of an old-fashioned way. I think that has some attraction and, over time, I did most things the right way. And people appreciate that, even if they never bought a suit at The Men's Wearhouse.

    Were you surprised to be parodied last month on Saturday Night Live?

    Not as surprised as you might think. I'm not really that humble. And I didn't think it was that funny a bit. Others have done it well, though. Jimmy Fallon's writers, for example, have always made humor out of Men's Wearhouse and me in a way I've always been happy with.

    Do you want to start or run another company?

    I'm almost 100% certain that I'm not going to be a public company CEO. I just turned 65, I'm on Medicare and have two kids in middle school. I've proven what I need to in business. The only draw for me is the store employees. The Men's Wearhouse has 50 black-tie holiday parties in November and December every year, and I went to around 15 of them. At some level that was the glue that helped hold all of the disparate stores and employees together. This is the first time in 40 years I haven't done it, and I do miss it.

    Could you see yourself in some sort of board or advisory roles?

    Absolutely. I love the idea of having more of a behind-the-scenes role. I have a wealth of experience that I wasn't necessarily as aware of when I was running the company. That's one reason why I'm actually writing a book -- to express some of the ideas there isn't space to do here.

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