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比尔·盖茨:年轻时曾和人比赛睡眠时间少

比尔·盖茨:年轻时曾和人比赛睡眠时间少

ELEANOR PRINGLE 2023-08-09
比尔·盖茨称他曾经主动尝试尽量减少睡眠时间,现在他却在努力保证充足睡眠。

摄影:JORDAN VONDERHAAR/彭博社 —— 盖蒂图片社

比尔·盖茨也有一些后悔的事情。微软(Microsoft)联合创始人比尔·盖茨公开承认,他希望拿出更多时间陪伴家人,希望在孩子们成长的过程中能与他们共度假期和周末。

但这位亿万富翁和慈善家再次解密了他以前的极端工作习惯。这一次他讲述了创业初期的休息时间。

比尔·盖茨似乎经常会比较员工的表现,还会将自己与同行进行对比。身家高达1,330亿美元的盖茨之前在他的博客中写道,在微软创立初期,他的私人办公室可以俯瞰停车场,他会从那里观察哪位员工最晚离开办公室。

但在他的新播客《比尔·盖茨解惑》(Unconfuse Me with Bill Gates)中,盖茨对喜剧演员塞斯·罗根和他的妻子劳伦·米勒·罗根两位嘉宾表示,他曾经将自己与其他人进行排名,看看谁在睡觉这件事上浪费的时间最多。

盖茨对这对夫妇表示:“三四十岁的时候,在聊到睡眠问题时,有人说:‘哦,我只睡六个小时。’又有人说:‘我只睡五个小时,’还有人会说:‘我有时候根本不睡。’

我会想:‘哇,这些人太厉害了,我得继续努力,因为睡觉代表了懒惰,是没有必要的。’”

盖茨继续说道:“现在众所周知,即使对于青少年而言,为了保持大脑健康,良好的睡眠都至关重要。这是任何老年痴呆疾病,包括阿尔茨海默症,最具有预测性的指标之一。”

热衷于保证大脑健康

盖茨和这对演员夫妇在谈到他的父亲和米勒·罗根的母亲去世的事情之后,提到了阿尔茨海默症这个话题。

老比尔·盖茨与阿尔茨海默症抗争十多年之后,于2020年9月在家中去世。

盖茨对神经退行性疾病背负的“污名”阐述了自己的观点。他表示:“一方面人们对这类疾病缺乏认识,另一方面认为这是一种耻辱。

我父亲在很久以后才说他患的是阿尔茨海默症,尽管这种疾病有一些独特的特征。这种疾病没有太多治疗方法,因此在正式诊断的时候,医生不可能对患者说:‘服用这种抗生素,你会痊愈的。’”

这位科技业巨头表示,虽然他希望在未来十年左右能够看到治疗这种进展性疾病的药物,但与此同时应该鼓励各年龄段的人们探索大脑保健方法。

他的话得到了米勒·罗根的认同。罗根的母亲阿黛尔·米勒在55岁的时候患上了早发型阿尔兹海默症,于2020年去世,享年69岁。

米勒·罗根和丈夫在2012年成立了一个全国非营利组织Hilarity for Charity,旨在关爱受阿尔兹海默症影响的家庭。

在谈到应对阿尔茨海默症的预防性措施时,盖茨表示他曾主动尽量减少睡眠时间,“转变为”监控自己的休息时间。

事实上,他甚至会与家人朋友“比赛”,他会问:“谁的睡眠质量得了90分?你是怎么做到的?”

罗根表示:“在我年轻的时候,普遍存在的一种观点是:‘等你死后有的是时间睡觉。睡觉并不重要,你不需要睡觉。’现在,我们都知道事实截然相反。保持充足睡眠或许是你唯一可以用来保证大脑健康的最重要的事情。”(财富中文网)

翻译:刘进龙

审校:汪皓

比尔·盖茨也有一些后悔的事情。微软(Microsoft)联合创始人比尔·盖茨公开承认,他希望拿出更多时间陪伴家人,希望在孩子们成长的过程中能与他们共度假期和周末。

但这位亿万富翁和慈善家再次解密了他以前的极端工作习惯。这一次他讲述了创业初期的休息时间。

比尔·盖茨似乎经常会比较员工的表现,还会将自己与同行进行对比。身家高达1,330亿美元的盖茨之前在他的博客中写道,在微软创立初期,他的私人办公室可以俯瞰停车场,他会从那里观察哪位员工最晚离开办公室。

但在他的新播客《比尔·盖茨解惑》(Unconfuse Me with Bill Gates)中,盖茨对喜剧演员塞斯·罗根和他的妻子劳伦·米勒·罗根两位嘉宾表示,他曾经将自己与其他人进行排名,看看谁在睡觉这件事上浪费的时间最多。

盖茨对这对夫妇表示:“三四十岁的时候,在聊到睡眠问题时,有人说:‘哦,我只睡六个小时。’又有人说:‘我只睡五个小时,’还有人会说:‘我有时候根本不睡。’

我会想:‘哇,这些人太厉害了,我得继续努力,因为睡觉代表了懒惰,是没有必要的。’”

盖茨继续说道:“现在众所周知,即使对于青少年而言,为了保持大脑健康,良好的睡眠都至关重要。这是任何老年痴呆疾病,包括阿尔茨海默症,最具有预测性的指标之一。”

热衷于保证大脑健康

盖茨和这对演员夫妇在谈到他的父亲和米勒·罗根的母亲去世的事情之后,提到了阿尔茨海默症这个话题。

老比尔·盖茨与阿尔茨海默症抗争十多年之后,于2020年9月在家中去世。

盖茨对神经退行性疾病背负的“污名”阐述了自己的观点。他表示:“一方面人们对这类疾病缺乏认识,另一方面认为这是一种耻辱。

我父亲在很久以后才说他患的是阿尔茨海默症,尽管这种疾病有一些独特的特征。这种疾病没有太多治疗方法,因此在正式诊断的时候,医生不可能对患者说:‘服用这种抗生素,你会痊愈的。’”

这位科技业巨头表示,虽然他希望在未来十年左右能够看到治疗这种进展性疾病的药物,但与此同时应该鼓励各年龄段的人们探索大脑保健方法。

他的话得到了米勒·罗根的认同。罗根的母亲阿黛尔·米勒在55岁的时候患上了早发型阿尔兹海默症,于2020年去世,享年69岁。

米勒·罗根和丈夫在2012年成立了一个全国非营利组织Hilarity for Charity,旨在关爱受阿尔兹海默症影响的家庭。

在谈到应对阿尔茨海默症的预防性措施时,盖茨表示他曾主动尽量减少睡眠时间,“转变为”监控自己的休息时间。

事实上,他甚至会与家人朋友“比赛”,他会问:“谁的睡眠质量得了90分?你是怎么做到的?”

罗根表示:“在我年轻的时候,普遍存在的一种观点是:‘等你死后有的是时间睡觉。睡觉并不重要,你不需要睡觉。’现在,我们都知道事实截然相反。保持充足睡眠或许是你唯一可以用来保证大脑健康的最重要的事情。”(财富中文网)

翻译:刘进龙

审校:汪皓

Bill Gates has some regrets. The Microsoft cofounder has openly admitted he wishes he’d spent more of his time with his family, enjoying vacations and weekends with them while his children grew up.

But the billionaire philanthropist has once again lifted the lid on his previously extreme work habits, this time examining how much rest he got as a budding entrepreneur.

Gates often compared his employees to one another, and himself to his peers, it seems. The man worth $133 billion previously wrote on his blog that in the early days of Microsoft, his private office would overlook the parking lot—which he would watch over to see which employees left the latest.

But in his new podcast, Unconfuse Me with Bill Gates, alongside guests comedian Seth Rogen and Rogen’s wife, Lauren Miller Rogen, Gates revealed he had once ranked himself against others in terms of how much time he had had seemingly wasted by sleeping.

“In my thirties and forties when there would be a conversation about sleep it would be like ‘Oh,, I only sleep six hours,'” Gates told the couple. “And the other guy says ‘Oh, I only sleep five,’ then ‘Well, sometimes I don’t sleep at all.’

“I’d be like ‘Wow, those guys are so good, I have to try harder because sleep is laziness and unnecessary.”

Gates continued: “Now what we know is that to maintain good brain health, getting good sleep—even back to your teen years—is super important. It’s one of the most predictive measures of any dementia, including Alzheimer’s.”

A fascination with brain health

Gates was speaking to the acting duo on the topic of Alzheimer’s following the death of Gates’ father and Miller Rogen’s mother.

Bill Gates Sr. died at home in September 2020 after a battle with Alzheimer’s, which had begun more than a decade prior.

Gates shared insight into the “stigma” around the neurodegenerative disease, saying: “There’s both lack of awareness and stigma.

“In my dad’s case they never really, until pretty late, said it was Alzheimer’s although it had all the unique characteristics because sadly since there isn’t much in the way of treatment; actually making the formal diagnosis isn’t like you magically say ‘Oh, take this antibiotic and it’ll get cured.'”

The tech titan said although he hoped to see the development of drugs to combat the progressive disease over the next decade or so, people across the age spectrum should be encouraged to explore brain health exercises in the meantime.

He was echoed by Miller Rogen, whose mother Adele Miller developed early-onset Alzheimer’s disease at just 55 years old, and died aged 69 in 2020.

Miller Rogen and her husband launched Hilarity for Charity in 2012, a national nonprofit aiming to care for families impacted by Alzheimer’s disease.

Discussing preventative measures to combat the disease, Gates revealed he had “swung” from actively getting as little sleep as possible to monitoring his rest.

In fact he even “competes” with family and friends, asking: “Who got a 90? How the heck did you do that?”

Rogen added: “When I was young the convention was ‘You’ll sleep when you’re dead, sleep isn’t that important, you don’t need sleep.’ And now already we know that’s completely oppositional to the truth and if anything it’s maybe the single most important thing you can do to keep your brain healthy.”

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